Comments on: Apple and iTunes save a bad post http://www.iamspencer.com/2008/04/02/apple-itunes-save-a-bad-post/ music, politics, sports, etcetera Mon, 01 Dec 2008 20:45:55 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Spencer http://www.iamspencer.com/2008/04/02/apple-itunes-save-a-bad-post/#comment-23795 Spencer Thu, 03 Apr 2008 20:33:53 +0000 http://www.iamspencer.com/?p=835#comment-23795 I see what you're saying - iTunes definitely puts things in the library based on when they were downloaded, but that's not the problem you're talking of - I've experienced the issue you're referring where you get a "single" as part of the pre-order and when you get the full album, the single plays out of order. I think I was able to fix it, but I can't remember how. Or maybe I wasn't able to fix it and am just smoking crack.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('23795','Spencer'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('23795','Spencer','I see what you\'re saying - iTunes definitely puts things in the library based on when they were downloaded, but that\'s not the problem you\'re talking of - I\'ve experienced the issue you\'re referring where you get a \"single\" as part of the pre-order and when you get the full album, the single plays out of order. I think I was able to fix it, but I can\'t remember how. Or maybe I wasn\'t able to fix it and am just smoking crack.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I see what you’re saying - iTunes definitely puts things in the library based on when they were downloaded, but that’s not the problem you’re talking of - I’ve experienced the issue you’re referring where you get a “single” as part of the pre-order and when you get the full album, the single plays out of order. I think I was able to fix it, but I can’t remember how. Or maybe I wasn’t able to fix it and am just smoking crack.
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]]> By: Howard http://www.iamspencer.com/2008/04/02/apple-itunes-save-a-bad-post/#comment-23793 Howard Thu, 03 Apr 2008 20:19:52 +0000 http://www.iamspencer.com/?p=835#comment-23793 Not necessarily true, Spence. The song number is embedded into the tags so if you sort by album or artist, the songs appear in order. Unfortunately, iTunes also bases it on the copyright information it puts into the AAC file. The two singles I tried to force into their correct order did not have the same unchangeable information as the album. I changed all the tags I could to the exact same information as the rest of the album (except song number) and it would not put it in the proper sequence. iTunes saw it as a song from a completely different album. Trust me, I worked on both for a good 20 minutes and finally just bought a new copy of the same song so all the information would be the same. And I've never had the problem of a song later in the album being downloaded before songs prior in album order. I sort everything by artist but did try to sort by album, but the same thing would happen. The single would be outside of the album order because -- as far as I could figure -- the copyright information wasn't the same. Anyway, that's why I don't do pre-orders anymore unless, of course, the pre-order has extra stuff that I just can't live without.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('23793','Howard'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('23793','Howard','Not necessarily true, Spence. The song number is embedded into the tags so if you sort by album or artist, the songs appear in order. Unfortunately, iTunes also bases it on the copyright information it puts into the AAC file. The two singles I tried to force into their correct order did not have the same unchangeable information as the album. I changed all the tags I could to the exact same information as the rest of the album (except song number) and it would not put it in the proper sequence. iTunes saw it as a song from a completely different album.\r\n\r\nTrust me, I worked on both for a good 20 minutes and finally just bought a new copy of the same song so all the information would be the same.\r\n\r\nAnd I\'ve never had the problem of a song later in the album being downloaded before songs prior in album order. I sort everything by artist but did try to sort by album, but the same thing would happen. The single would be outside of the album order because -- as far as I could figure -- the copyright information wasn\'t the same.\r\n\r\nAnyway, that\'s why I don\'t do pre-orders anymore unless, of course, the pre-order has extra stuff that I just can\'t live without.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Not necessarily true, Spence. The song number is embedded into the tags so if you sort by album or artist, the songs appear in order. Unfortunately, iTunes also bases it on the copyright information it puts into the AAC file. The two singles I tried to force into their correct order did not have the same unchangeable information as the album. I changed all the tags I could to the exact same information as the rest of the album (except song number) and it would not put it in the proper sequence. iTunes saw it as a song from a completely different album.

Trust me, I worked on both for a good 20 minutes and finally just bought a new copy of the same song so all the information would be the same.

And I’ve never had the problem of a song later in the album being downloaded before songs prior in album order. I sort everything by artist but did try to sort by album, but the same thing would happen. The single would be outside of the album order because — as far as I could figure — the copyright information wasn’t the same.

Anyway, that’s why I don’t do pre-orders anymore unless, of course, the pre-order has extra stuff that I just can’t live without.

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]]> By: Spencer http://www.iamspencer.com/2008/04/02/apple-itunes-save-a-bad-post/#comment-23792 Spencer Thu, 03 Apr 2008 17:36:38 +0000 http://www.iamspencer.com/?p=835#comment-23792 Songs in the library are ordered based on a number assigned when the song was added. iTunes changed how the download manager works so that multiple songs are downloaded concurrently, so if song 3 is downloaded to the library faster than song 1, then song 3 comes first. This applies not just to iTunes, but if you use Amazon or eMusic, the song order is based on when it was added to the library (you'll notice if you sort by date added, it's out of order also). Solution: sort your library and lists by Album - then it's always is the proper order.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('23792','Spencer'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('23792','Spencer','Songs in the library are ordered based on a number assigned when the song was added. iTunes changed how the download manager works so that multiple songs are downloaded concurrently, so if song 3 is downloaded to the library faster than song 1, then song 3 comes first. This applies not just to iTunes, but if you use Amazon or eMusic, the song order is based on when it was added to the library (you\'ll notice if you sort by date added, it\'s out of order also).\r\n\r\nSolution: sort your library and lists by Album - then it\'s always is the proper order.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Songs in the library are ordered based on a number assigned when the song was added. iTunes changed how the download manager works so that multiple songs are downloaded concurrently, so if song 3 is downloaded to the library faster than song 1, then song 3 comes first. This applies not just to iTunes, but if you use Amazon or eMusic, the song order is based on when it was added to the library (you’ll notice if you sort by date added, it’s out of order also).

Solution: sort your library and lists by Album - then it’s always is the proper order.

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]]> By: joey http://www.iamspencer.com/2008/04/02/apple-itunes-save-a-bad-post/#comment-23791 joey Thu, 03 Apr 2008 17:05:20 +0000 http://www.iamspencer.com/?p=835#comment-23791 I hate when stuff appears out of order in the library, too. You aren't alone on that one. I usually wind up deleting the single so I dont have duplicate files. You get enough of them and your hard-drive starts to fill up with duplicates of hundreds of files.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('23791','joey'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('23791','joey','I hate when stuff appears out of order in the library, too.\r\nYou aren\'t alone on that one.\r\n\r\nI usually wind up deleting the single so I dont have duplicate files. You get enough of them and your hard-drive starts to fill up with duplicates of hundreds of files.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I hate when stuff appears out of order in the library, too.
You aren’t alone on that one.

I usually wind up deleting the single so I dont have duplicate files. You get enough of them and your hard-drive starts to fill up with duplicates of hundreds of files.

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]]> By: Spencer http://www.iamspencer.com/2008/04/02/apple-itunes-save-a-bad-post/#comment-23790 Spencer Thu, 03 Apr 2008 16:34:01 +0000 http://www.iamspencer.com/?p=835#comment-23790 I always get sucked in by the early single or access to songs that won't be available when the title is released to the public. A few months back I bought the foo fighters cd the same way because they were providing a ticket pre-sale code for ticketmaster. Well in Philly they didn't use ticketmaster, so I didn't get a code. I should have complained then.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('23790','Spencer'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('23790','Spencer','I always get sucked in by the early single or access to songs that won\'t be available when the title is released to the public. A few months back I bought the foo fighters cd the same way because they were providing a ticket pre-sale code for ticketmaster. Well in Philly they didn\'t use ticketmaster, so I didn\'t get a code. I should have complained then.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I always get sucked in by the early single or access to songs that won’t be available when the title is released to the public. A few months back I bought the foo fighters cd the same way because they were providing a ticket pre-sale code for ticketmaster. Well in Philly they didn’t use ticketmaster, so I didn’t get a code. I should have complained then.
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]]> By: Howard http://www.iamspencer.com/2008/04/02/apple-itunes-save-a-bad-post/#comment-23788 Howard Thu, 03 Apr 2008 04:55:29 +0000 http://www.iamspencer.com/?p=835#comment-23788 After my third pre-order did that, I've never done it again. The other thing that made me angry (and I know I'm being anal) is that the single that would download immediately would not have the same tags as the album and would show up out of order in my library. Drove me crazy! Otherwise, I'm not sure I'm sold on Accelerate, but I am getting more into the new Raconteurs.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('23788','Howard'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('23788','Howard','After my third pre-order did that, I\'ve never done it again. The other thing that made me angry (and I know I\'m being anal) is that the single that would download immediately would not have the same tags as the album and would show up out of order in my library.\r\n\r\nDrove me crazy!\r\n\r\nOtherwise, I\'m not sure I\'m sold on Accelerate, but I am getting more into the new Raconteurs.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> After my third pre-order did that, I’ve never done it again. The other thing that made me angry (and I know I’m being anal) is that the single that would download immediately would not have the same tags as the album and would show up out of order in my library.

Drove me crazy!

Otherwise, I’m not sure I’m sold on Accelerate, but I am getting more into the new Raconteurs.

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