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		<title>By: John Steel</title>
		<link>http://www.iamspencer.com/2007/04/18/mad-world/#comment-14758</link>
		<dc:creator>John Steel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 17:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Why is any restriction regarded by the NRA as entirely untenable?  Doesnâ€™t the government already police us?"--The government has no right nor responsibility to police us, the free, adult citizens of the United States.  They are supposed to protect us, but they do a fairly poor job of that since they spend so much time harassing people for having long hair (yes, still), for being the wrong color, etcetera.  Do you really believe that the police, with their average education level of eighth grade and their brainwashed, bigoted and just plain asinine mentalities exist to protect you?  Taking arms away from law abiding Americans is an "untenable" idea because we live in an increasingly fascist society and we may have to do more than just talk in order to correct that, just as the original Americans did against an overly controlling and unfair government.

"Itâ€™s just a shame that these children are dying and we wonâ€™t do anything out of regard for some words on a piece of centuries old paper."--First of all, it is these poor, poor children who pose the greatest threat to each other and to every other citizen.  Do you really believe that the police will be there when one of these "innocent" children decides to shoot you to impress their equally ignorant friends?  Secondly, words on a piece of centuries old paper?  Please.  The people who participated in the writing of that document were ages ahead of their time in terms of intelligence and forethought.  It isn't respect for mere words, it is respect for ideas and ideals which our current, elitist political system cannot even fathom.  I am ashamed to be part of this Idiocracy in which basic freedoms are taken for granted so much that you would even utter such a clearly mindless statement.  Wake up before it's too late--if it isn't already too late.&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('14758','John Steel'); return false;"&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('14758','John Steel','\&#34;Why is any restriction regarded by the NRA as entirely untenable?  Doesn&#226;€™t the government already police us?\&#34;--The government has no right nor responsibility to police us, the free, adult citizens of the United States.  They are supposed to protect us, but they do a fairly poor job of that since they spend so much time harassing people for having long hair (yes, still), for being the wrong color, etcetera.  Do you really believe that the police, with their average education level of eighth grade and their brainwashed, bigoted and just plain asinine mentalities exist to protect you?  Taking arms away from law abiding Americans is an \&#34;untenable\&#34; idea because we live in an increasingly fascist society and we may have to do more than just talk in order to correct that, just as the original Americans did against an overly controlling and unfair government.\r\n\r\n\&#34;It&#226;€™s just a shame that these children are dying and we won&#226;€™t do anything out of regard for some words on a piece of centuries old paper.\&#34;--First of all, it is these poor, poor children who pose the greatest threat to each other and to every other citizen.  Do you really believe that the police will be there when one of these \&#34;innocent\&#34; children decides to shoot you to impress their equally ignorant friends?  Secondly, words on a piece of centuries old paper?  Please.  The people who participated in the writing of that document were ages ahead of their time in terms of intelligence and forethought.  It isn\'t respect for mere words, it is respect for ideas and ideals which our current, elitist political system cannot even fathom.  I am ashamed to be part of this Idiocracy in which basic freedoms are taken for granted so much that you would even utter such a clearly mindless statement.  Wake up before it\'s too late--if it isn\'t already too late.'); return false;"&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Why is any restriction regarded by the NRA as entirely untenable?  Doesnâ€™t the government already police us?&#8221;&#8211;The government has no right nor responsibility to police us, the free, adult citizens of the United States.  They are supposed to protect us, but they do a fairly poor job of that since they spend so much time harassing people for having long hair (yes, still), for being the wrong color, etcetera.  Do you really believe that the police, with their average education level of eighth grade and their brainwashed, bigoted and just plain asinine mentalities exist to protect you?  Taking arms away from law abiding Americans is an &#8220;untenable&#8221; idea because we live in an increasingly fascist society and we may have to do more than just talk in order to correct that, just as the original Americans did against an overly controlling and unfair government.</p>
<p>&#8220;Itâ€™s just a shame that these children are dying and we wonâ€™t do anything out of regard for some words on a piece of centuries old paper.&#8221;&#8211;First of all, it is these poor, poor children who pose the greatest threat to each other and to every other citizen.  Do you really believe that the police will be there when one of these &#8220;innocent&#8221; children decides to shoot you to impress their equally ignorant friends?  Secondly, words on a piece of centuries old paper?  Please.  The people who participated in the writing of that document were ages ahead of their time in terms of intelligence and forethought.  It isn&#8217;t respect for mere words, it is respect for ideas and ideals which our current, elitist political system cannot even fathom.  I am ashamed to be part of this Idiocracy in which basic freedoms are taken for granted so much that you would even utter such a clearly mindless statement.  Wake up before it&#8217;s too late&#8211;if it isn&#8217;t already too late.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('14758','John Steel'); return false;">Reply</a>  - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('14758','John Steel','\&quot;Why is any restriction regarded by the NRA as entirely untenable?  Doesn&acirc;€™t the government already police us?\&quot;--The government has no right nor responsibility to police us, the free, adult citizens of the United States.  They are supposed to protect us, but they do a fairly poor job of that since they spend so much time harassing people for having long hair (yes, still), for being the wrong color, etcetera.  Do you really believe that the police, with their average education level of eighth grade and their brainwashed, bigoted and just plain asinine mentalities exist to protect you?  Taking arms away from law abiding Americans is an \&quot;untenable\&quot; idea because we live in an increasingly fascist society and we may have to do more than just talk in order to correct that, just as the original Americans did against an overly controlling and unfair government.\r\n\r\n\&quot;It&acirc;€™s just a shame that these children are dying and we won&acirc;€™t do anything out of regard for some words on a piece of centuries old paper.\&quot;--First of all, it is these poor, poor children who pose the greatest threat to each other and to every other citizen.  Do you really believe that the police will be there when one of these \&quot;innocent\&quot; children decides to shoot you to impress their equally ignorant friends?  Secondly, words on a piece of centuries old paper?  Please.  The people who participated in the writing of that document were ages ahead of their time in terms of intelligence and forethought.  It isn\'t respect for mere words, it is respect for ideas and ideals which our current, elitist political system cannot even fathom.  I am ashamed to be part of this Idiocracy in which basic freedoms are taken for granted so much that you would even utter such a clearly mindless statement.  Wake up before it\'s too late--if it isn\'t already too late.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Spencer</title>
		<link>http://www.iamspencer.com/2007/04/18/mad-world/#comment-13025</link>
		<dc:creator>Spencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 19:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was overstating things a little, but in reading some of the comments I've heard from kids in Philly, they get guns for protection and the fights that used to be fist fights when I were a kid, are now gun fights.

I agree with you - and if you go back to the original post, I don't know that getting rid of guns would solve things because we seem to be inherently violent.&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('13025','Spencer'); return false;"&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('13025','Spencer','I was overstating things a little, but in reading some of the comments I\'ve heard from kids in Philly, they get guns for protection and the fights that used to be fist fights when I were a kid, are now gun fights.\r\n\r\nI agree with you - and if you go back to the original post, I don\'t know that getting rid of guns would solve things because we seem to be inherently violent.'); return false;"&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was overstating things a little, but in reading some of the comments I&#8217;ve heard from kids in Philly, they get guns for protection and the fights that used to be fist fights when I were a kid, are now gun fights.</p>
<p>I agree with you - and if you go back to the original post, I don&#8217;t know that getting rid of guns would solve things because we seem to be inherently violent.
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		<title>By: grace</title>
		<link>http://www.iamspencer.com/2007/04/18/mad-world/#comment-13023</link>
		<dc:creator>grace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 19:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't know, Spencer. I think you are overstating the case a little. And that's coming from a liberal, non-gun owner who's never even had a family member that owned a gun. It's not that every housewife and office manager will be taking care of road rage with an Uzi--that's kinda silly. The scarier potential is that the shaky-handed housewife or office manager--untrained and uncertain--will have possession of a deadly weapon that's easy for a real criminal to get their hands on. Or maybe worse--their own innocent children. 

From a more philosophical perspective, I just feel that a civilized society needs to have civilized goals. You can't be a great nation without a few things--great art, great schools, accessible healthcare, innovative leadership, responsible citizens and civilized debate. There are certain behaviors that are too reminiscent of animals or barbarians, and do not have a place in a civilized human culture. Settling debate with violence is one of them. 

In college, I had an anthropology professor that was teaching us that in primate culture, they will go to battle with one another for baring their teeth. And he had a student comment on how aggressive animals can be, to which the professor said, "Really? Men go to war over less." So maybe I'm completely wrong--maybe it's just part of our nature as humans to want to settle things with blood. Who the hell knows? But shouldn't we be evolving away from those practices, if we hope to survive as a species? 

I guess I'm starting to sound too much like an episode of Star Trek.&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('13023','grace'); return false;"&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('13023','grace','I don\'t know, Spencer. I think you are overstating the case a little. And that\'s coming from a liberal, non-gun owner who\'s never even had a family member that owned a gun. It\'s not that every housewife and office manager will be taking care of road rage with an Uzi--that\'s kinda silly. The scarier potential is that the shaky-handed housewife or office manager--untrained and uncertain--will have possession of a deadly weapon that\'s easy for a real criminal to get their hands on. Or maybe worse--their own innocent children. \r\n\r\nFrom a more philosophical perspective, I just feel that a civilized society needs to have civilized goals. You can\'t be a great nation without a few things--great art, great schools, accessible healthcare, innovative leadership, responsible citizens and civilized debate. There are certain behaviors that are too reminiscent of animals or barbarians, and do not have a place in a civilized human culture. Settling debate with violence is one of them. \r\n\r\nIn college, I had an anthropology professor that was teaching us that in primate culture, they will go to battle with one another for baring their teeth. And he had a student comment on how aggressive animals can be, to which the professor said, \&#34;Really? Men go to war over less.\&#34; So maybe I\'m completely wrong--maybe it\'s just part of our nature as humans to want to settle things with blood. Who the hell knows? But shouldn\'t we be evolving away from those practices, if we hope to survive as a species? \r\n\r\nI guess I\'m starting to sound too much like an episode of Star Trek.'); return false;"&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know, Spencer. I think you are overstating the case a little. And that&#8217;s coming from a liberal, non-gun owner who&#8217;s never even had a family member that owned a gun. It&#8217;s not that every housewife and office manager will be taking care of road rage with an Uzi&#8211;that&#8217;s kinda silly. The scarier potential is that the shaky-handed housewife or office manager&#8211;untrained and uncertain&#8211;will have possession of a deadly weapon that&#8217;s easy for a real criminal to get their hands on. Or maybe worse&#8211;their own innocent children. </p>
<p>From a more philosophical perspective, I just feel that a civilized society needs to have civilized goals. You can&#8217;t be a great nation without a few things&#8211;great art, great schools, accessible healthcare, innovative leadership, responsible citizens and civilized debate. There are certain behaviors that are too reminiscent of animals or barbarians, and do not have a place in a civilized human culture. Settling debate with violence is one of them. </p>
<p>In college, I had an anthropology professor that was teaching us that in primate culture, they will go to battle with one another for baring their teeth. And he had a student comment on how aggressive animals can be, to which the professor said, &#8220;Really? Men go to war over less.&#8221; So maybe I&#8217;m completely wrong&#8211;maybe it&#8217;s just part of our nature as humans to want to settle things with blood. Who the hell knows? But shouldn&#8217;t we be evolving away from those practices, if we hope to survive as a species? </p>
<p>I guess I&#8217;m starting to sound too much like an episode of Star Trek.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('13023','grace'); return false;">Reply</a>  - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('13023','grace','I don\'t know, Spencer. I think you are overstating the case a little. And that\'s coming from a liberal, non-gun owner who\'s never even had a family member that owned a gun. It\'s not that every housewife and office manager will be taking care of road rage with an Uzi--that\'s kinda silly. The scarier potential is that the shaky-handed housewife or office manager--untrained and uncertain--will have possession of a deadly weapon that\'s easy for a real criminal to get their hands on. Or maybe worse--their own innocent children. \r\n\r\nFrom a more philosophical perspective, I just feel that a civilized society needs to have civilized goals. You can\'t be a great nation without a few things--great art, great schools, accessible healthcare, innovative leadership, responsible citizens and civilized debate. There are certain behaviors that are too reminiscent of animals or barbarians, and do not have a place in a civilized human culture. Settling debate with violence is one of them. \r\n\r\nIn college, I had an anthropology professor that was teaching us that in primate culture, they will go to battle with one another for baring their teeth. And he had a student comment on how aggressive animals can be, to which the professor said, \&quot;Really? Men go to war over less.\&quot; So maybe I\'m completely wrong--maybe it\'s just part of our nature as humans to want to settle things with blood. Who the hell knows? But shouldn\'t we be evolving away from those practices, if we hope to survive as a species? \r\n\r\nI guess I\'m starting to sound too much like an episode of Star Trek.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Spencer</title>
		<link>http://www.iamspencer.com/2007/04/18/mad-world/#comment-13014</link>
		<dc:creator>Spencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 16:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for coming by Jeff.  

When I first bought a cell phone 10 years ago like so many other people, it was only in the case of emergency.  You know if the car broke down, was going to be late, etc.  As you drive around, notice how many "emergencies" are taking place as people drive.  Guns would be the same way.  Sure you'd have it in case of emergency, but the next time someone pisses you off in traffic - there's your trusty Uzi to handle the situation.&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('13014','Spencer'); return false;"&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('13014','Spencer','Thanks for coming by Jeff.  \r\n\r\nWhen I first bought a cell phone 10 years ago like so many other people, it was only in the case of emergency.  You know if the car broke down, was going to be late, etc.  As you drive around, notice how many \&#34;emergencies\&#34; are taking place as people drive.  Guns would be the same way.  Sure you\'d have it in case of emergency, but the next time someone pisses you off in traffic - there\'s your trusty Uzi to handle the situation.'); return false;"&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for coming by Jeff.  </p>
<p>When I first bought a cell phone 10 years ago like so many other people, it was only in the case of emergency.  You know if the car broke down, was going to be late, etc.  As you drive around, notice how many &#8220;emergencies&#8221; are taking place as people drive.  Guns would be the same way.  Sure you&#8217;d have it in case of emergency, but the next time someone pisses you off in traffic - there&#8217;s your trusty Uzi to handle the situation.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('13014','Spencer'); return false;">Reply</a>  - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('13014','Spencer','Thanks for coming by Jeff.  \r\n\r\nWhen I first bought a cell phone 10 years ago like so many other people, it was only in the case of emergency.  You know if the car broke down, was going to be late, etc.  As you drive around, notice how many \&quot;emergencies\&quot; are taking place as people drive.  Guns would be the same way.  Sure you\'d have it in case of emergency, but the next time someone pisses you off in traffic - there\'s your trusty Uzi to handle the situation.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Jeff C.</title>
		<link>http://www.iamspencer.com/2007/04/18/mad-world/#comment-13012</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 15:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bravo.  The whole thing is so insane.  And I'd say 75% of what I've read about the VT incident has focused on "well, if somebody at VT had been armed, they could have stopped this."  Are we seriously moving towards (or already living in) a society where everybody's packing?  As much as I love my country, I'm starting to think I should be raising my children in Canada (or some other less-armed nation).&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('13012','Jeff C.'); return false;"&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('13012','Jeff C.','Bravo.  The whole thing is so insane.  And I\'d say 75% of what I\'ve read about the VT incident has focused on \&#34;well, if somebody at VT had been armed, they could have stopped this.\&#34;  Are we seriously moving towards (or already living in) a society where everybody\'s packing?  As much as I love my country, I\'m starting to think I should be raising my children in Canada (or some other less-armed nation).'); return false;"&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bravo.  The whole thing is so insane.  And I&#8217;d say 75% of what I&#8217;ve read about the VT incident has focused on &#8220;well, if somebody at VT had been armed, they could have stopped this.&#8221;  Are we seriously moving towards (or already living in) a society where everybody&#8217;s packing?  As much as I love my country, I&#8217;m starting to think I should be raising my children in Canada (or some other less-armed nation).
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('13012','Jeff C.'); return false;">Reply</a>  - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('13012','Jeff C.','Bravo.  The whole thing is so insane.  And I\'d say 75% of what I\'ve read about the VT incident has focused on \&quot;well, if somebody at VT had been armed, they could have stopped this.\&quot;  Are we seriously moving towards (or already living in) a society where everybody\'s packing?  As much as I love my country, I\'m starting to think I should be raising my children in Canada (or some other less-armed nation).'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: grace</title>
		<link>http://www.iamspencer.com/2007/04/18/mad-world/#comment-12794</link>
		<dc:creator>grace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 13:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So well written.&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('12794','grace'); return false;"&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('12794','grace','So well written.'); return false;"&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So well written.
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